Comments on: When Vessels Break (Mike Guglielmucci and Healer) http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:00:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Florence http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-6284 Florence Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:39:00 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-6284 To me l believe and think the message shared says it all,let look at the scriptures,it talks all that Fred has shared with us and also about restoring the week brother,we have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory,but God gives us a second chance why should we deny it to our brother Mike?He needs us to support him through this time when the enemy wants him back so much in hiding of his the dark sinful ways. To me l believe and think the message shared says it all,let look at the scriptures,it talks all that Fred has shared with us and also about restoring the week brother,we have all sinned and fallen short of God’s glory,but God gives us a second chance why should we deny it to our brother Mike?He needs us to support him through this time when the enemy wants him back so much in hiding of his the dark sinful ways.

]]> By: Coltrain http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-6022 Coltrain Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:30:00 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-6022 Despite Phillipians 1:15-18, I think you're reaching and stretching here. You don't need to ever use this song. There are hundreds of thousands of songs written by sincere Christian musicians which speak "truth". Forgive? Certainly. But continue to feed this man CCLI/CCM residual$ by u$ing mu$ic that was birthed in a lie, thus rewarding such behaviour? I don't think so. While it's not really for me to judge, I sincerely doubt his "addicted to porn" story either. It's just a coverup for all the rest of his untenable deceptions, skillfully designed to conjure up maximum sympathy by the deceived. Who does the bible say is the "father of lies"? Who does the bible say is the "Way, the Truth, and the Life"? Yes, we've all sinned and fallen short. But that does not mean that sin does not have consequences. Lose the song. There are plenty of other better ones. Despite Phillipians 1:15-18, I think you’re reaching and stretching here.

You don’t need to ever use this song.

There are hundreds of thousands of songs written by sincere
Christian musicians which speak “truth”. Forgive? Certainly.
But continue to feed this man CCLI/CCM residual$ by u$ing
mu$ic that was birthed in a lie, thus rewarding such behaviour?
I don’t think so.

While it’s not really for me to judge, I sincerely doubt his
“addicted to porn” story either. It’s just a coverup for all
the rest of his untenable deceptions, skillfully designed to
conjure up maximum sympathy by the deceived.

Who does the bible say is the “father of lies”?
Who does the bible say is the “Way, the Truth, and the Life”?

Yes, we’ve all sinned and fallen short.
But that does not mean that sin does not have consequences.

Lose the song.
There are plenty of other better ones.

]]> By: “I still believe” « Life Between the Cities http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-1566 “I still believe” « Life Between the Cities Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:17:27 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-1566 [...] “I still believe” | January 9, 2010 I was looking for a song on YouTube that we are playing at Longpoint tomorrow, and I stumbled across the song “Healer” by Mike Guglielmucci.  I loved the song the first time I heard it, but I wasn’t aware that it was written by someone at Hillsong.  Curious, I researched the authorship a little more, and stumbled across this news story and this blog post. [...] [...] “I still believe” | January 9, 2010 I was looking for a song on YouTube that we are playing at Longpoint tomorrow, and I stumbled across the song “Healer” by Mike Guglielmucci.  I loved the song the first time I heard it, but I wasn’t aware that it was written by someone at Hillsong.  Curious, I researched the authorship a little more, and stumbled across this news story and this blog post. [...]

]]> By: Jayeel Cornelio http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-419 Jayeel Cornelio Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:37:55 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-419 Not an easy issue to tackle but yes, we are to respond with compassion and hope even for Mike G. After all, each one of us has issues to face. And we know the difficulty that brings. Not an easy issue to tackle but yes, we are to respond with compassion and hope even for Mike G. After all, each one of us has issues to face. And we know the difficulty that brings.

]]> By: Franco http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-357 Franco Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:15:12 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-357 please check video...very timely...speaking from the very heart of God..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCm99yxRZ-0 please check video…very timely…speaking from the very heart of God…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCm99yxRZ-0

]]> By: Gecko http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-346 Gecko Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:26:07 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-346 Let's not forget King David. He too sinned but he repented. I believe Mike's confession is his first step towards repentance and restoration... Let’s not forget King David. He too sinned but he repented. I believe Mike’s confession is his first step towards repentance and restoration…

]]> By: Josh Regan http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-344 Josh Regan Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:22:45 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-344 Satan may have meant it all for evil, but God meant it for good, and therefore, it will be good! Satan may have meant it all for evil, but God meant it for good, and therefore, it will be good!

]]> By: Franco http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-339 Franco Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:40:03 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-339 I am saddened, like most of you, about what happened to Mike G. But what grieves me most is the reaction of the "modern time x-tians" in treating other christians who, like all of us, made mistake and had fallen several times. First of all, Mike G. was not caught and was later exposed (as many media has published). He confessed his wrongdoing to his family and that's where i admired him most. I have no approval of his lies but the fact that he faced the consequences of confesing his wrongdoing is a godly thing to do. Most of us, if not caught sinning, will pretend everything is well and under control and live an "ideal" christian life as a costume or a facade (somebody may comment on this and will tell me, "that's only you. PLS. STOP THE HYPOCRISY). I am also saddened by the decision done by HILLSONG removing the song Healer even from their latest audio album. In the video album, it's reasonable because of the nature of the video. But in the audio/cd album, in my opinion, it is not necessary. It's like removing part of the book of Psalms because the author is a murderer/adulterer servant of God. But, that's their business. What bothers me of their action is the thought that i'm sure is not intentional; that is if you are a servant of God, and publicly you confess that you commit a sin and with a repentant heart you are asking for forgiveness, instead of extending/lending a helping hand and a shoulder to lean on, you will be disowned, mock, set aside, erased, forgotten so better keep your sin to your self and God and live "victoriously." If there is any moment that Mike is to sing his song Healer, that is now. Having an illness that is more dangerous than cancer (sexual sin if not repented can lead to eternal damnation) is the right time to ask God for help. And that's what Jesus is all about, Gracious Savior. And to those who momentarily lost the knowledge of God's grace because of gruesome, judgmental and arrogant thinking, read again the lives of King David (a man who's after God's heart yet sinned) and Apostle Paul on how they experienced God's grace. And if it's not enough, read again your life story and how God found you and make you whole again....and again.....and again....God bless you all.... >>> franco of Roxas City, Philippines & Montreal, Canada I am saddened, like most of you, about what happened to Mike G. But what grieves me most is the reaction of the “modern time x-tians” in treating other christians who, like all of us, made mistake and had fallen several times. First of all, Mike G. was not caught and was later exposed (as many media has published). He confessed his wrongdoing to his family and that’s where i admired him most. I have no approval of his lies but the fact that he faced the consequences of confesing his wrongdoing is a godly thing to do. Most of us, if not caught sinning, will pretend everything is well and under control and live an “ideal” christian life as a costume or a facade (somebody may comment on this and will tell me, “that’s only you. PLS. STOP THE HYPOCRISY). I am also saddened by the decision done by HILLSONG removing the song Healer even from their latest audio album. In the video album, it’s reasonable because of the nature of the video. But in the audio/cd album, in my opinion, it is not necessary. It’s like removing part of the book of Psalms because the author is a murderer/adulterer servant of God. But, that’s their business. What bothers me of their action is the thought that i’m sure is not intentional; that is if you are a servant of God, and publicly you confess that you commit a sin and with a repentant heart you are asking for forgiveness, instead of extending/lending a helping hand and a shoulder to lean on, you will be disowned, mock, set aside, erased, forgotten so better keep your sin to your self and God and live “victoriously.” If there is any moment that Mike is to sing his song Healer, that is now. Having an illness that is more dangerous than cancer (sexual sin if not repented can lead to eternal damnation) is the right time to ask God for help. And that’s what Jesus is all about, Gracious Savior. And to those who momentarily lost the knowledge of God’s grace because of gruesome, judgmental and arrogant thinking, read again the lives of King David (a man who’s after God’s heart yet sinned) and Apostle Paul on how they experienced God’s grace. And if it’s not enough, read again your life story and how God found you and make you whole again….and again…..and again….God bless you all…. >>> franco of Roxas City, Philippines & Montreal, Canada

]]> By: amanda http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-328 amanda Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:30:40 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-328 Praise God he admitted to his fault not an easy thing to do in the light of how much coverage he had and where it took him, epecially knowing how the "church" was going to react to him when the truth came out. Just goes to show that the church should not put people on pedestals. To quick to want to make celebrities out of people. Mike and his family need the support of the leaders of the churches that put him on a pedestal in the first place they have as much egg on there faces as he does, if not more as they are supposed to be the "Spiritual " ones and proclaim to know what is of God and what is not.. We are all broken vessels all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Gods grace is new every morning lets stop shooting our wounded and become a restorer of broken people if we can't do it for our own, we will never do it for the lost in the world. Praise God he admitted to his fault not an easy thing to do in the light of how much coverage he had and where it took him, epecially knowing how the “church” was going to react to him when the truth came out.

Just goes to show that the church should not put people on pedestals. To quick to want to make celebrities out of people. Mike and his family need the support of the leaders of the churches that put him on a pedestal in the first place they have as much egg on there faces as he does, if not more as they are supposed to be the “Spiritual ” ones and proclaim to know what is of God and what is not..

We are all broken vessels all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Gods grace is new every morning lets stop shooting our wounded and become a restorer of broken people if we can’t do it for our own, we will never do it for the lost in the world.

]]> By: Neil http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/when-vessels-break/#comment-321 Neil Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:35:14 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=130#comment-321 Right on to Teri (comment posted) on August 22nd, 2008 3:18 pm. This comes hot on the heals of the Tod Bentley deception and should act as a bullhorn to all of us to be more discerning! Church and Christianity is much more than a show and good entertainment - test everything. Let's get back to good teaching. Right on to Teri (comment posted) on August 22nd, 2008 3:18 pm. This comes hot on the heals of the Tod Bentley deception and should act as a bullhorn to all of us to be more discerning! Church and Christianity is much more than a show and good entertainment – test everything. Let’s get back to good teaching.

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