Comments on: How to introduce click tracks to your band http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/how-to-introduce-click-tracks-to-your-band/ Discussing Everything Worship Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:03:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/how-to-introduce-click-tracks-to-your-band/comment-page-1/#comment-1270 John Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:51:10 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=658#comment-1270 The worship leader at my last church used clicks extensively. I only played occasionally since I was the tech director. Now that I'm a worship arts pastor and worship leader at another church, I just started introducing click tracks in the last several months. Only one drummer was offended - he thought I didn't trust his meter - but when he made it through a whole song to the click for the first time, his face lit up and his whole demeanor changed. We still are only using them occasionally but I hope to use them for every song. Praise Charts now offers clicks WITH loops to many of there songs...very cool! The worship leader at my last church used clicks extensively. I only played occasionally since I was the tech director. Now that I’m a worship arts pastor and worship leader at another church, I just started introducing click tracks in the last several months. Only one drummer was offended – he thought I didn’t trust his meter – but when he made it through a whole song to the click for the first time, his face lit up and his whole demeanor changed. We still are only using them occasionally but I hope to use them for every song. Praise Charts now offers clicks WITH loops to many of there songs…very cool!

]]> By: josh collesano http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/how-to-introduce-click-tracks-to-your-band/comment-page-1/#comment-1180 josh collesano Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:42:57 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=658#comment-1180 great article, something every musician in every church needs to read in order to understand the importance of it. We stress excellence a lot at my church and we use a click track to almost every song (98% of em) and now when we don't have it my players say they "feel musically naked" without it... which goes to show that a little struggle at first can produce some amazing results... an encouragement: It's going to be tough at first, but after a few weeks they payoff is worth it... great article, something every musician in every church needs to read in order to understand the importance of it. We stress excellence a lot at my church and we use a click track to almost every song (98% of em) and now when we don’t have it my players say they “feel musically naked” without it… which goes to show that a little struggle at first can produce some amazing results…

an encouragement: It’s going to be tough at first, but after a few weeks they payoff is worth it…

]]> By: Kyle http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/how-to-introduce-click-tracks-to-your-band/comment-page-1/#comment-1169 Kyle Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:21:06 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=658#comment-1169 The human side for us wasn't that big of a deal. The rest of the team is aligned vision wise on where we want to go creatively so it made sense for everyone and really got our creative juices flowing. We use Abelton Live so it generates the click for us. I have a post on <a href="http://www.ourrisingsound.com/2009/02/04/how-to-create-your-own-click-track-in-garage-band/" rel="nofollow">how to create your own click track in Garage Band</a> that you may find useful if you're a Garage Band user. The human side for us wasn’t that big of a deal. The rest of the team is aligned vision wise on where we want to go creatively so it made sense for everyone and really got our creative juices flowing.

We use Abelton Live so it generates the click for us. I have a post on how to create your own click track in Garage Band that you may find useful if you’re a Garage Band user.

]]> By: b davis http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/how-to-introduce-click-tracks-to-your-band/comment-page-1/#comment-1156 b davis Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:06:37 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=658#comment-1156 At our church, when we're not using sequencing or loops, we use a Tama Rhythm Watch. It's programmable, super-easy to use, and has a jack for a foot switch (so your drummer can switch programs during a rumble fade). When we're using sequencing or loops, we use Reason, Digital Performer, or Logic through a firewire audio interface (Outputs 1 & 2 stereo to FOH & monitors, Output 3 to monitors ONLY for click). The "human side" was a little rough at first, but was well worth the headache. We started doing 2 songs a weekend to the click, sent just to the drummer and worship leader (the rest of our backline was on wedges). This helped us get used to it. Slowly but surely, we started using it for every song and eventually got our entire team on IEM's and locked in to the click (yes, even vocalists - you'd be surprised how much singers drag). From a personality standpoint, it was a little more difficult. Every drummer thinks they're rock-solid and doesn't need a click. All of our drummers hated it at first. Now, if we tell them we're doing a song without they're the first to ask "Are you sure?" If you couch it as a vision thing (i.e. "We're doing this to be a better team, better musicians, and create fewer distractions for our congregation") it will give you lot of leverage - who doesn't want to become a better musician, gel more as a team, and create a better worship environment? Hope that helps, Lee! At our church, when we’re not using sequencing or loops, we use a Tama Rhythm Watch. It’s programmable, super-easy to use, and has a jack for a foot switch (so your drummer can switch programs during a rumble fade). When we’re using sequencing or loops, we use Reason, Digital Performer, or Logic through a firewire audio interface (Outputs 1 & 2 stereo to FOH & monitors, Output 3 to monitors ONLY for click).

The “human side” was a little rough at first, but was well worth the headache. We started doing 2 songs a weekend to the click, sent just to the drummer and worship leader (the rest of our backline was on wedges). This helped us get used to it. Slowly but surely, we started using it for every song and eventually got our entire team on IEM’s and locked in to the click (yes, even vocalists – you’d be surprised how much singers drag).

From a personality standpoint, it was a little more difficult. Every drummer thinks they’re rock-solid and doesn’t need a click. All of our drummers hated it at first. Now, if we tell them we’re doing a song without they’re the first to ask “Are you sure?” If you couch it as a vision thing (i.e. “We’re doing this to be a better team, better musicians, and create fewer distractions for our congregation”) it will give you lot of leverage – who doesn’t want to become a better musician, gel more as a team, and create a better worship environment?

Hope that helps, Lee!

]]> By: Lee Hoffman http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/how-to-introduce-click-tracks-to-your-band/comment-page-1/#comment-1153 Lee Hoffman Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:04:39 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=658#comment-1153 I totally agree. I have a few questions. How did you deal with the human side of the change? What program are you using to generate the click track? thanks I totally agree. I have a few questions. How did you deal with the human side of the change? What program are you using to generate the click track?
thanks

]]> By: Kyle http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/how-to-introduce-click-tracks-to-your-band/comment-page-1/#comment-1152 Kyle Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:47:29 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=658#comment-1152 Hopefully your drummer has headphones, if not in-ears :-) If you send the click through a wedge then you'll get bleed through either from stage volume or through the drum mics. As far as running stuff out of a laptop it depends on your audio interface, or if you're using one at all. Depending on the audio interface it can have several audio outs which you can route signal to(send click to channel A, loop to B, etc..). If you aren't using any usb/firewire audio interface with your laptop or if your interface only has 1 out channel, then ya, you'll have to pan. Hopefully your drummer has headphones, if not in-ears :-) If you send the click through a wedge then you’ll get bleed through either from stage volume or through the drum mics.

As far as running stuff out of a laptop it depends on your audio interface, or if you’re using one at all. Depending on the audio interface it can have several audio outs which you can route signal to(send click to channel A, loop to B, etc..). If you aren’t using any usb/firewire audio interface with your laptop or if your interface only has 1 out channel, then ya, you’ll have to pan.

]]> By: Mike Browning http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/how-to-introduce-click-tracks-to-your-band/comment-page-1/#comment-1151 Mike Browning Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:06:48 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=658#comment-1151 What is the most practical way to run a click track when playing on the road. I.E., no in-ear monitors and just Logic on a MBP? I'm guessing send the click to it's own channel and put it only in the drummer's monitor? And what do you do if you're already running something out of the laptop? Split the channels L/R or is there a better way? Thanks. What is the most practical way to run a click track when playing on the road. I.E., no in-ear monitors and just Logic on a MBP? I’m guessing send the click to it’s own channel and put it only in the drummer’s monitor? And what do you do if you’re already running something out of the laptop? Split the channels L/R or is there a better way?

Thanks.

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