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[yod1948]

The bible itself does this.


It's a matter of reverence for the jewish people...who, after all, gave us the bible. What could be wrong with reverence towards our holy Father?

have you noticed how common the name of Jesus Christ is treated in movies? It is synonamous with a curse these days.

I realize that christians aren't using "the Name" as a curse but like anything we do often, it can become common and then taken for granted. The concept is that making mention of "The Name" makes it seem common as opposed to Holy.

Elohim is Holy. The angels themselves cover their faces when crying out Holy, Holy, Holy. Can you think of anyone who would have more authority than Yeshua to say this Name? Yet, there isn't a single place in the scriptures where He did so.

I don't understand the resistance to treating The Name as especially holy?
Yes, He calls us friends but that doesn't make Him our "buddy"

[Robert]

[QUOTE=travisvwright;24976]This is the second time in my life I've heard this refered to as the 2nd commandment. Yod what are your ten? BTW I'm fascinated. If that is 2 I can't get to ten.

From the top of my head so not word for word.
1. No other gods before Me.
2. Make no craven images.
3. Do not use the name of the Lord in vain.
4. Honor the Sabath
5. Honor your father and Mother
6. Do not kill.
7. Do not commit adultery
8. Do not steal
9. Do not lie
10. Do not covet.

QUOTE]

These are the Catholic Ten commandments. The 2nd commandment of graven images is completely removed, and the 10th is split into 2 separate commandments so that it does not appear to be only 9. The Catholic Bible still lists the orginal 10 in the text of Dueteronomy, but the second is ommited in the teachings of the church to justify the obvious prolific use of idols.
1. I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
4. Honor your father and your mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7.0You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.

[ShanMan]

Everyone agrees: Hallow God's name (treat His name reverentially)
Everyone agrees: Do not use God's name in vain (treating His name as common)
Disputed: Using 'the NAME', even reverentially

I'm thinking about Romans 14 here regarding 'disputable matters'.

Regarding holy days or not: "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord." v.5,6

Regarding holy foods or not: "He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God." v. 6

It seems to me that the Scriptures teach that there is some room for a believer to determine before the Lord how to please Him with holy living. I'm wondering if using 'the NAME' falls in this category. You think?

Seems to me also that there is a warning about being too strident about this too: "So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves." Romans 14:22

Or am I barking up the wrong tree.

[NickAlexander]

Originally Posted by Robert

These are the Catholic Ten commandments. The 2nd commandment of graven images is completely removed, and the 10th is split into 2 separate commandments so that it does not appear to be only 9. The Catholic Bible still lists the orginal 10 in the text of Dueteronomy, but the second is ommited in the teachings of the church to justify the obvious prolific use of idols.
1. I am the LORD your God. You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve.
2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
4. Honor your father and your mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7.0You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.

Correction. Graven images were NOT removed from the Catholic Ten Commandments, but they were integrated as part of the first commandment, because graven imagery implies idol worship, the worship of other "gods".

Read all about it here [2129-2132,2141].

I'm more than happy to help explain Catholic thought, as I would appreciate the courtesy of not having my denomination slandered without proper contextual proof. I don't care if you don't share my denomination, just so long as you represent it accurately when you openly slam it on this board.

We are all brothers, dude.

ETA: I appreciate Shanman's post.

Nick
http://www.nickalexander.com/home

[yod1948]

Originally Posted by ShanMan

Everyone agrees: Hallow God's name (treat His name reverentially)
Everyone agrees: Do not use God's name in vain (treating His name as common)
Disputed: Using 'the NAME', even reverentially

I'm thinking about Romans 14 here regarding 'disputable matters'.

Regarding holy days or not: "One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord." v.5,6

Regarding holy foods or not: "He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God." v. 6

It seems to me that the Scriptures teach that there is some room for a believer to determine before the Lord how to please Him with holy living. I'm wondering if using 'the NAME' falls in this category. You think?

Seems to me also that there is a warning about being too strident about this too: "So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves." Romans 14:22

Or am I barking up the wrong tree.

I don't think this is a disputable matter but I also think that they way we treat each other over any of these issues is more important than "doing it right".

uggh...I hate religion.