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Wildwind
10-12-2007, 05:48 PM
Greetings fellow worship guitarists!

As some of you are aware, I am relegated to using modelers in church as we run everything direct. I’ve used many through the years. For the last five years, I’ve used the PODxt, an upgrade from my Boss GT-6.

This week I traded in both of my old PODs for the new POD X3. Given my extreme dependence on these units, this was a step of faith. The existing computer interface to convert xt patches to X3 is not yet available (but due soon, maybe today). I had the usual three Sunday services plus a three-day revival to play, all with the X3. As it turned out, it didn’t really require much faith anyway.

The X3 is most impressive. Line6 was holding out on us. For those following the story, it was known the X3 was adding dual amp capability and including ALL the model packs (giving you 78 amps, 98 FX, and two or three dozen cabinets – plus all the bass and vocal stuff). We know it would have a mic input (also usable as a separate hi-z input with a DI) with a second potential processing chain that could run alongside the guitar processing. These things alone would justify the new model.

This is what they let us find out for ourselves. The X3 sounds better. Depending on which amp, it sounds way better. With several times the processing power of the older unit, they were apparently able to do a lot more with the modeling technology and you can hear the difference. There is no latency (they killed off most of it with the xt – now I can’t hear it at all). It sounds transparent and amazingly real through my Mackie SRM350 and in the headphones. Some of the amp models were re-done with stunning results. The Twin and Plexi models were early discoveries – both are astonishing.

Note to Lincoln lovers – rumor has it that Linc uses the POD’s Plexi 45 model for his signature tone. I’ll say this – the X3 nails that tone without half trying. But while you could get that tone in the older POD, it didn’t sound this good! Now I swear it sounds just like the CDs – lots of attitude!

The FX are also better. I haven’t tried them all, but everything just sounds better. The chorus and UniVibe models were fine before – now they’re better.

And it’s easy to use even without the computer interface. I haven’t figured it all out yet, like the dual amp thing. But the single amps sound so good I can’t stop myself from goofing around with just those. But I’ll get to it this weekend…

For my money, the PODxt was the best sounding modeler on the market. Its computer interface and Line6’s amazing support (who else continued to upgrade their equipment long after it was released?) sweetened the deal. The X3 is even better.

I took it to practice last night. My WL didn’t know I had the new unit, since from a distance it looks the same (though it’s a somewhat different shade of burgundy – very cool looking with the chrome knobs). He heard me play some stuff and came over. He said “I’ll get one of those for the church” (to replace the xt that they already own, one identical to my main one). So he was hearing something. When a drummer (his main instrument) can hear the difference and likes it immediately – and comments throughout practice – I’d have to say it passes all tests.

Sorry this is so long – believe me, I’m holding back. I’ll be pleased to answer questions and will certainly have some patch sets available to any who ask once the software is released.

Greg

BillyChia
10-13-2007, 01:27 AM
Greg,
Cool post. I dont' currently use a modeler, but it's something I'd like to get into because of the stage volume advantages. This post was really helpful.

Klampert
10-14-2007, 01:47 AM
Greg, thanks for the review...I am so close to upgrading my xt live now...I really want the software part though

spadeano
07-15-2008, 06:04 PM
I play in a worship band on Sunday mornings and have had a number of issues with stomp boxes and pretty much everything that I have tried to add effects to my rig. We seem to get a lot of RF interference with our setup. Sometimes it seems to be a cable issue where shielding isn't adequate and sometimes it seems to be related to gear that is plugged in. I am really interested in this new effects rig from Line 6, but I'm a bit concerned about dropping half a grand only to find out that I cannot use it in our worship environment. Any thoughts, ideas suggestions?:confused:

Smitty
07-16-2008, 11:43 AM
Anything Line 6 does is going to work for you, and work well. I started off with a Spider II and a floorboard, then the pod 2.0, and now the new pod.

You get awesome tone, great effects, and there is just SO much to play with!

I personally prefer running the pod through a DI, into the main board. Some prefer amps on stage. My current "home" church runs every thing through DI's into the board...very clean stage that way, and we have more than enough monitors to suffice.

Smitty

Wildwind
07-16-2008, 01:31 PM
Very similar situation here – our sanctuary has some grounding and noise issues that forced me away from pedals and certain pickups (even some humbuckers were unusable).

I’ve used modelers in worship for many years now, most recently the POD X3, with tremendous success. It will work great for you. Believe it or not, I now prefer modelers and have put my amps away (the ones I didn’t sell). I still have a few pedals and use them alongside – Line6 PODs work great with pedals; some others don’t.

You need to make an investment of time, though. While it sounds good out of the box, you will want to invest considerable time into getting it set up for yourself – writing patches, deciding on toggled effects, and getting your patches organized.

If you think it would help, I’ll gladly send you my patch set – and confer with you privately. My email address: gmiller77@sbcglobal.net. Others – please ask before contacting me privately at this address.

Thanks, hope to hear from you soon - Greg

chipshot0701
07-16-2008, 01:52 PM
I use a digitech modeler and have had to alternate using a mic'd fender chorus amp or have gone directly into our peavey mixer. both sound great. I like using the mic'd amp so that I can control monitor volume.
The Digitech has two pedals. one moves you up to select- one for down. Each press of the buttons means one different amp/sound effect sampling.

The hardest part is setting up patches for the set list. But once I learned how to quickly set my (sounds ie bluesy, crunch, distortion, delays, clean, acoustic modeling) in chronilogical order its been great.
From what Ive seen of the POD that has separate pedals on board I have to believe its going to be so simple to use compared to what I've been doing that I have to get it!
I've seen some using a laptop on stage connected to it so that they have hand control and they can read the settings a whole lot better.

mc

Wildwind
07-16-2008, 03:08 PM
Well said.

I actually use a POD X3 bean - not the Live version. I have the FBV Shortboard controller on the floor and the X3 on a stand up near me. So I can see and make changes at need from up close to me and still have foot control - and it fits on my computer desk a lot better. But this is a pricey choice - I already had the controller from before.

But most do use the Live version happily. It also offers a couple of features I don't have. Having a laptop nearby would be an ultimate setup for some things...but I'm fine with what I have for now. I have a feeling computers will soon become much more common for guitarists on stage, though.

Greg

hotraman
07-27-2008, 10:58 PM
Hi Greg;
Nice review about the X3.
I've owned my X3L ( floor model) for awhile now.
I bought one as soon as it came out.
I did all of the firmware upgrades.
The sound & patch selections are a big improvement over the XTL.
Having two POD's playing at the same time is nice.
Plus, you can do two separate amp/cab/effects set up on a single
channel (much like the old Vox Tonelab SE)
I play my X3L thru an Atomic Reactor 112-50 or a small powered
Mackie 150 monitor.
My Vox is sadly neglected as my X3L gets all of my attention.
Steve

Stevie Nature
07-28-2008, 04:36 PM
Well, I went through all the trouble of getting a new amp, which I love, but it's just a little too loud for stage use, plus I have all the grounding issues mentioned above. I think I'm going to have to invest in one of these....eventually.

My wife is gonna kill me. :o