Comments on: Culture of Crucial: Recruiting People, Not Musicians or Singers http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:51:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sara http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-6007 sara Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:51:00 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-6007 I think this is a great article. I've come to the conclusion that the congregation will always find something to complain about if they want to complain. Maybe the child program workers should look to the 10 commandments again...and not covet thy neighbor's musical talents. Most jealousy starts from within. I think this is a great article. I’ve come to the conclusion that the congregation will always find something to complain about if they want to complain. Maybe the child program workers should look to the 10 commandments again…and not covet thy neighbor’s musical talents. Most jealousy starts from within.

]]> By: Lori Biddle http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-380 Lori Biddle Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:31:34 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-380 We designed a class setting that is really laid back so our worship leader can work with the vocalists who are taking the class either to just help them to improve personally or in hopes of joining our teams. This allows them to come to us, instead of us hunting them down! It gives them a glimpse of what it feels like to be part of the team and decide if this is their gifted area of service. It obviously also allows the worship leader to get to know everyone personally without the worry of one on one with woman, or anyone feeling intimidated. They are all in the same boat so to speak! It has served us well. We designed a class setting that is really laid back so our worship leader can work with the vocalists who are taking the class either to just help them to improve personally or in hopes of joining our teams. This allows them to come to us, instead of us hunting them down! It gives them a glimpse of what it feels like to be part of the team and decide if this is their gifted area of service. It obviously also allows the worship leader to get to know everyone personally without the worry of one on one with woman, or anyone feeling intimidated. They are all in the same boat so to speak! It has served us well.

]]> By: josh collesano http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-354 josh collesano Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:29:54 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-354 BRILLIANT! So simple yet so often overlooked. BRILLIANT! So simple yet so often overlooked.

]]> By: Russ http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-347 Russ Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:10:27 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-347 @Ryan, great insight. Language can be huge in some situations. @Fred, Thanks man. Thanks for giving me a voice! @Ryan, great insight. Language can be huge in some situations.

@Fred, Thanks man. Thanks for giving me a voice!

]]> By: Fred McKinnon http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-345 Fred McKinnon Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:31:20 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-345 Russ, Thanks for a powerful, awesome "give" in this article. Can I just say that I really enjoy "serving" with you on this site! :-) For the Kingdom, Fred McKinnon www.fredmckinnon.com www.theworshipcommunity.com Russ,
Thanks for a powerful, awesome “give” in this article. Can I just say that I really enjoy “serving” with you on this site! :-)

For the Kingdom,
Fred McKinnon
http://www.fredmckinnon.com
http://www.theworshipcommunity.com

]]> By: Ryan http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-342 Ryan Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:15:47 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-342 Hey Russ, great thoughts. I think a couple of things that would help that I'm learning is to change some language a little bit. We "recruit" skill - we "invite" people. Maybe instead of talking about recruiting people we should talk about inviting people. Your thoughts about getting to know people before getting to know their skill were right on - that's definitely what inviting looks like. Thanks for this! Hey Russ, great thoughts.

I think a couple of things that would help that I’m learning is to change some language a little bit. We “recruit” skill – we “invite” people. Maybe instead of talking about recruiting people we should talk about inviting people.

Your thoughts about getting to know people before getting to know their skill were right on – that’s definitely what inviting looks like. Thanks for this!

]]> By: Jon Morris http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-338 Jon Morris Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:05:50 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-338 In reference to my last my comment I want to clarify something. I by no means think myself or any staff member gets treated bad, I simply meant sometimes we feel pressure, then pass the pressure down. Ministry is meant to be excellent but not perfect. There I think I said it better that time. : D Volunteers are so important and a huge blessing to all of us who serve on church staff or those of us that are volunteer leaders. They are the church and they make church happen, 'tis a unique combination. In reference to my last my comment I want to clarify something. I by no means think myself or any staff member gets treated bad, I simply meant sometimes we feel pressure, then pass the pressure down. Ministry is meant to be excellent but not perfect. There I think I said it better that time. : D Volunteers are so important and a huge blessing to all of us who serve on church staff or those of us that are volunteer leaders. They are the church and they make church happen, ’tis a unique combination.

]]> By: Bobby Gilles http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-337 Bobby Gilles Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:57:27 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-337 Good thoughts. We are commanded to be encouragers and to love one another, and this goes far beyond admiring people for their skills. Good thoughts. We are commanded to be encouragers and to love one another, and this goes far beyond admiring people for their skills.

]]> By: Jon Morris http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-336 Jon Morris Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:11:17 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-336 good stuff dude. the worse thing a staff person can do is treat volunteer how they get treated...and what I mean by that is the "expecting" factor. as staff we are "expected" to be there on time, perform our ministry at a high level, and be ministry mindset people....but the reality is volunteers are people who will try to do and be all these things but fall short. we must love volunteers passionately. saw a church sign that was cheesy but good with what you said: Workers are more important than the work! good stuff dude. the worse thing a staff person can do is treat volunteer how they get treated…and what I mean by that is the “expecting” factor. as staff we are “expected” to be there on time, perform our ministry at a high level, and be ministry mindset people….but the reality is volunteers are people who will try to do and be all these things but fall short. we must love volunteers passionately. saw a church sign that was cheesy but good with what you said: Workers are more important than the work!

]]> By: Russ http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/culture-of-crucial-recruiting-people-not-musicians-or-singers/#comment-335 Russ Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:51:43 +0000 http://www.theworshipcommunity.com/?p=116#comment-335 Great question, John. Personally, I would would say that one comes with the other. Since we are emotional beings, created to express and experience life in and through emotions, that when a person "feels" crucial it helps in solidifying their understanding of the fact that they are crucial. I know sometimes facts precede emotion, though, and so I would also say that when we continue to tell are people they are crucial and reinforce that by doing things that confirm it, people understand that they are needed and being to "feel" needed as a result. I think it's a two way street. Thanks for commenting! Russ Great question, John. Personally, I would would say that one comes with the other.

Since we are emotional beings, created to express and experience life in and through emotions, that when a person “feels” crucial it helps in solidifying their understanding of the fact that they are crucial.

I know sometimes facts precede emotion, though, and so I would also say that when we continue to tell are people they are crucial and reinforce that by doing things that confirm it, people understand that they are needed and being to “feel” needed as a result.

I think it’s a two way street.

Thanks for commenting!
Russ

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